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The Last Great New York Heart-throb.

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The Last Great New York Heart-throb.

Postby Owen on Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:20 am

My God! The Holy Grail has been found!

(I've never seen this before. forgive me if this is old news)

It is commonly known that RF's Exposure album was originally conceived in an entirely different form, known as The Last Great New York Heart-throb (or was RF having a joke with that title?).

Apparently RF & Daryl Hall distributed tapes of this unreleased LP after DH's record company refused to release it.

The original master tapes still exist, as Sid Smith has recently mentioned hearing them, and RF has hinted towards a reissue of Exposure containing the original sessions as bonus tracks.

However, I have never seen mention of any original tapes being "out there" (ebay, trade circles, collectors lists etc), or any bootlegs containing excerpts from the tapes etc.

Well, apparently at least one LP test-pressing was also made of the original album (which is news to me), and at some stage a digital transfer was undertaken by the owner. The lucky buggers at THIS FRIPPERTRONICS SITE have actually managed to acquire a copy of it, and have been generous enough to share this analysis below. (for the original page look under "remixes")

Enjoy!

The unofficial Frippertronics site wrote:This is a detailed digital analysis of an early white label test pressing of Exposure from 1978,

(believed to be originally titled “The Last Great New York Heartthrob�).

Due to the distinct possibility of Fripp re-releasing Exposure with these or other alternate versions,

THIS RECORDING WILL NOT BE DUPLICATED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. DO NOT ASK !

Hard to believe, but this incredibly rare and valuable record was not kept in the greatest condition. The digital transfer is fine despite some typical vinyl surface noise, however during two tracks (Breathless & more notably NY3) there are some sections where the record skipped several times and small pieces of audio were lost. The gaps have been repaired with the official version, but in the case of NY3, some of the dialogue clips are heard in place of (or in conjunction with) Hall’s vocal. Infinitely preferable to the skipping record and retains the continuity of the musical performance. Interestingly, the NY3 ending includes an intentional artificial repeat of the last 1/2 bar of the ending and cymbal wash. This is NOT a mistake, nor is it a vinyl skip. Somewhat reminiscent of the manual extra chaotic ending of the original version of 21st Century Schizoid Man. The effect must have worn off Fripp as he left it in its natural state for all subsequent releases.

The transfer also differs from the official version in that the speed is not identical. Generally the speed is ever so slightly faster, however it is NOT consistently so for each track. This may mean that some songs were intentionally altered by Fripp for the official version to either bring the tempo up or down slightly. Therefore no efforts have been made to “correct� it.

This album version was famously denied release in 1978, due to problems with Daryl Hall’s manager Tommy Mottola, who insisted that the album be listed as “Daryl Hall & Robert Fripp� and released on RCA. Fears that it would jeopardize his commercial appeal were also voiced, resulting in Fripp replacing many of Hall’s original vocals. Fripp encountered similar record company resistance and reasoning from Chrysalis, when Blondie was approached to record a version of Donna Summer’s “I Feel Love� for inclusion on Exposure. A request for a guest vocal by Debbie Harry, which was similarly thwarted. A live recording exists of Blondie performing this song (as well as Heroes and Louie Louie) with Fripp on guitar at the Hammersmith Odeon in London, England on January 12, 1980.

All versions of the below highlighted tracks have major variations.

All bedtrack takes are identical, despite some reports to the contrary.

All songs (except Urban Landscape) were intended for this first release in this alternate sequence.

Subsequent minor variations exist on subsequent official releases of Exposure.

To avoid confusion, indications of similarities will refer to specific official releases as follows :

79VR = 1979 Vinyl LP
85CD = 1985 CD
89DE = 1989 Definitive Edition CD

1) Preface (1:14) (Fripp)
- Louder level as on 79VR
Brian Eno – Dialogue “Can I play you some of the new things I’ve been doing which could be commercial ?�
Robert Fripp – Door, Footsteps, Telephone
Peter Gabriel – Dialogue “Shit I won’t start like that...and again...three...four…�
? - Vocal Collages (from Mooncowisms ?)

2) You Burn Me Up I’m a Cigarette (2:23) (Fripp/Hall)
- Quick/Short End Fade Out as on 79VR
Shivapuri Baba – Dialogue “Think of God alone, dismiss every thought from your mind and you will see God�
Robert Fripp – Guitar, Piano, Frippertronics, Lyrics
Daryl Hall – Vocal
Tony Levin – Bass
Jerry Marotta – Drums

3) North Star (3:05) (Fripp/Hall/Walton)
- Alternate Close/Dry Vocal Mix
- “I’m still tonight� vocal melody as per 79VR
- Extra Pedal Steel Guitar by Sid McGuiness
Phil Collins – Drums
Brian Eno – Synthesizer
Robert Fripp – Guitar
Daryl Hall – Vocal
Tony Levin – Bass Guitar
Sid McGuiness – Pedal Steel
Joanna Walton – Lyrics

4) Disengage (2:55) (Fripp/Hall/Walton)
- Daryl Hall vocal with additional lyrics instead of Peter Hammill vocal
- Alternate opening dialogue by Edith Fripp
- Slightly Extended opening and ending
Phil Collins – Drums
Brian Eno – Guitar Treatment ?
Mrs. Edith Fripp – Dialogue regarding Robert’s early toilet training
Robert Fripp – Guitar, Frippertronics
Daryl Hall – Vocal
Tony Levin – Bass Guitar
Joanna Walton – Lyrics

5) Chicago (2:13) (Fripp/Hall/Walton)
- Daryl Hall vocal instead of Peter Hammill vocal
Barry Andrews – Organ, Piano
Robert Fripp – Guitar, Frippertronics
Daryl Hall – Vocal
Tony Levin – Bass
Jerry Marotta – Drums
Joanna Walton – Lyrics

6) Exposure (4:21) (Fripp/Gabriel)
- Daryl Hall vocal instead of Terre Roche vocal
J.G. Bennett – Dialogue “It is impossible to achieve the aim without suffering�
Robert Fripp – Guitar, Frippertronics, Spoken Letters and Background Vocal
Daryl Hall – Vocal
Jerry Marotta – Drums
Sid McGuiness – Rhythm Guitar

7) NY3 (2:22) (Fripp/Hall/Walton ?)
- Daryl Hall vocal with unreleased lyrics instead of domestic apartment argument dialogue
- Extended ending with artificial repeat
Robert Fripp – Guitar, Frippertronics, Lyrics ?
Daryl Hall – Vocal, Lyrics ?
Tony Levin – Bass
Narada Michael Walden – Drums
Joanna Walton – Lyrics ?

8 ) Hååden Two (3:09) (Fripp)
- Alternate dialogue and one complete additional musical sequence
- Additional end dialogue section as on 79VR
Shivapuri Baba – Dialogue (unintelligible)
J.G. Bennett – Dialogue “If you know you have an unpleasant nature and dislike people, this is no obstacle to work� “Ah yes ! How wonderful !� “More good advice could hardly be packed into one sentence than there is there�
Brian Eno – Dialogue “Incredibly dismal pathetic chord sequence� “It was an incredibly odd piece.� “I was very very impressed by it.� “It just has none of qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon it�
Mrs. Edith Fripp – Dialogue/Laughter “Oh dear oh dear oh dear�
Robert Fripp – Guitar, Frippertronics
Peter Gabriel – Dialogue “Do we have time for one more piano audition ?�
Mrs. Evelyn Harris – Dialogue/Laughter
Tony Levin – Bass
Jerry Marotta – Drums
Fripp’s NYC neighbours / The Mother & Father Argument “Don’t you call me a slut.� (unintelligible shouting)
Joanna Walton – Dialogue “I know that I could easily spend the rest of my life with you� “Both those things weren’t true … that’s definitely true�

9) Mary (2:03) (Fripp/Hall/Walton)
- Daryl Hall vocal instead of Terre Roche vocal
- No Frippertronics
Robert Fripp – Guitar
Daryl Hall – Vocal
Joanne Walton – Lyrics

10) Breathless (4:43) (Fripp)
- Extended opening Frippertronics
- No Frippertronics during first guitar break section without Frippertronics as on 79VR
Robert Fripp – Guitar, Frippertronics
Tony Levin – Bass
Narada Michael Walden – Drums

11) NYCNY (3:33) (Fripp/Hall)
- Daryl Hall vocal and lyrics instead of Peter Hammill/Terre Roche duet with Joanna Walton’s lyrics
- Backing track is from I May Have Not Had Enough of Me But I Have Had Enough of You (not the NYCNY version that appears on Daryl Hall’s Sacred Songs)
Brian Eno – Guitar Treatment ?
Robert Fripp – Guitar, Frippertronics
Daryl Hall – Vocal, Lyrics (as per Sacred Songs version)
Tony Levin – Bass
Narada Michael Walden – Drums

12) First Inaugural Address to I.A.C.E. Sherborne House (0:04) (Bennett)
J.G. Bennett – Dialogue (sped up into indecipherable static)

13) Water Music I (1:26) (Fripp/Bennett)
- Extended Frippertronics with Bennett tape starting later as per 79VR
J.G. Bennett – Dialogue on impending ice age/disasters/flooding etc.
Robert Fripp – Frippertronics

14) Here Comes The Flood (4:06) (Gabriel)
- Extra Frippertronics as per 79VR
- Less vocal reverb as per 79VR
- Alternate “keyboard� in place of “whistle� in chorus as per 79VR
- Extremely low level indecipherable murmuring after track ends
Brian Eno – Synthesizer
Robert Fripp – Frippertronics
Peter Gabriel – Vocal, Piano, Lyrics

15) Water Music II (4:13) (Fripp)
- Extended Frippertronics opening and ending as per 79VR
- Hiss level appears to be relatively much lower than on 89DE
- Extremely low level indecipherable murmuring as track ends
- Recorded at the House of Music, NJ in July 1977
Robert Fripp – Frippertronics

16) Postscript (0:39) (Fripp)
- Lower level as per 79VR
Brian Eno – Dialogue/Laughter “So the whole thing’s untrue...a big hoax�
Robert Fripp – Telephone, Footsteps, Door

TOTAL RUNNING TIME = 42:53

OTHER KNOWN MAJOR DIFFERENCES / VERSIONS
- Another version of Mary exists with Daryl Hall’s vocal with Tim Cappella on sax. (explains his LP credit)
For the final version, Fripp replaced the sax with Frippertronics.
- A much longer (6:26 ?) version of Water Music II exists on 85CD.
- A totally different musical and vocal performance of NYCNY appears on Daryl Hall’s Sacred Songs.
- A totally different musical and vocal performance of Exposure appears on Peter Gabriel II.
- An identical version of Urban Landscape appears on Daryl Hall’s Sacred Songs.


For more info on the various versions of Exposure, make sure you check out Claas Kazzer's Exposure Pages

And did anyone else know that Joanna Walton died in the Lockerbie air disaster? :shock: I only just found this out too.

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Postby vrooom on Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:20 pm

That's very interesting, Owen. Very interesting indeed...


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Postby Owen on Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:54 pm

reposting wiped post again:

It has occurred to me that this "white label test pressing" could in fact be a privately pressed LP from either one of the original tapes circulated by RF, or a recording from the radio (the original complete album was broadcast at least once).

I'll still be keeping an eye on ebay for Exposure WLPs though! Just in case.

Cheers,
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Postby drdennis on Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:11 am

Holy Shit!
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Postby vrooom on Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:33 am

If anyone ever finds a copy of this for sale, I'll organise a whipround and we'll release it ourselves! :D


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Postby Owen on Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:44 am

vrooom wrote:If anyone ever finds a copy of this for sale, I'll organise a whipround and we'll release it ourselves!


Bugger that! I'll sell my kids and keep it to myself! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

(Just joking of course. I'd only sell one of my kids.)
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Postby jtmack on Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:24 pm

Owen wrote:
vrooom wrote:If anyone ever finds a copy of this for sale, I'll organise a whipround and we'll release it ourselves!


Bugger that! I'll sell my kids and keep it to myself! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

(Just joking of course. I'd only sell one of my kids.)

And I’ll call child protective services. Maybe an E-mail to the little lady of the house would do?
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Postby drdennis on Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:35 pm

"How much for your wife? I want to buy your children!"

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