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If you could take a private guitar lesson with Fripp...

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If you could take a private guitar lesson with Fripp...

Postby Gilesfan on Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:13 pm

I recently saw that a very well known guitarist was (I don''t think he is anymore) teaching in the U.S. for quite alot (above $100.00 per hour). Being who he is, this is quite understandable, but hopefully he is also a great teacher, as that is another thing in itself. I wondered what one would want to learn from this person if they could only take a one lesson.


For guitar players and non-guitar players (other musicians or simply those who want to learn "Fripp philosophy") I ask:

If you could take a private guitar lesson with Robert Fripp, what would you want to learn?
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Postby monokchrome on Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:57 am

Hmm, technique takes practice, which is pretty straight-forward. I can deal with that. Instead, I wouldn't mind some insight into the composition aspect. How he works out multiple parts, rhythms(poly- or otherwise), patch editing even?

I wonder sometimes if Fripp actually hears compositions like Fracture or Level Five in his head before trying to nut them out.
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Postby vrooom on Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:48 am

I would just disassemble the Lunar Module back down to its component parts and then say:

"Go on, put it back together again."

Then I would imbibe numerous alcoholic beverages while the old man huffed and puffed, routing cables and checking connections.

In other words, no - I wouldn't want a guitar lesson. If I did, I would put my hand in my pocket and apply to be a Crafty. The only technique that does interest me, however, is the sliding "banjo" moves he does on "The Sailor's Tale" and "FaKcts of Life". I would be interested to hear/see that up close.


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Postby UberCirkus on Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:41 pm

vrooom wrote:The only technique that does interest me, however, is the sliding "banjo" moves he does on "The Sailor's Tale" and "FaKcts of Life". I would be interested to hear/see that up close.


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He does that with an electric screwdriver. :lol:
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Postby vrooom on Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:24 am

UberCirkus wrote:
vrooom wrote:The only technique that does interest me, however, is the sliding "banjo" moves he does on "The Sailor's Tale" and "FaKcts of Life". I would be interested to hear/see that up close.


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He does that with an electric screwdriver. :lol:


I've been using a plain old monkey wrench...no wonder it sounded all wrong...


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Postby UberCirkus on Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:28 am

vrooom wrote:I've been using a plain old monkey wrench...no wonder it sounded all wrong...


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Eddie Van Halen did the same thing you did, 'til he saw Fripp doing it the right way.
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Postby MarkSullivan on Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:50 am

To return to the original question...I do admire Fripp's technical skills (especially his flatpick technique). I'd be interested in a critique of my left and right hand technique. I'd like to think he'd find them better than "pathetic''--maybe even "adequate"--but the only way to know for sure would be to play for him and see what he says. I expect he'd have suggestions for improvement that would provide useful practice material for a long time.
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Postby drdennis on Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:54 pm

I have yet to actually study with Fripp, but
have been studying Guitar Craft for a little
over a year, taking weekly lessons from
Tony Geballe and attending an Introduction
To Guitar Craft course. Next month I'll be attending
a Level 1 course with Fripp. Afterwards, I'll
let you know how it is training with him, although
I'll likely get little one on one time. I've been playing
guitar and writing for a long time, but always had
trouble developing the exacting small muscle control
needed to move where I wanted to as a player. Some
excellent previous teachers, like Jeff Peretz, helped, but
I wanted to focus specifically on technique and
relaxation and attention for awhile. Fripp's approach
really emphasizes this sort of thing, e.g. playing from the
wrist, supression, simultaneous release, etc. This is
what led me to Guitar Craft.
I didn't get into this method of working to meet
Fripp or some other head trip, so I think, as we Crafties go, I'll be able to provide a relatively objective view on the experience
of studying with RF to our group here.
If Fripp's method is similar to Tony and Curt
Golden, I think the emphasis would be pretty
heavy on methodical development of left
AND especially RIGHT hand technique. A lot
of deliberate direction of attention and practice in
relaxation as well. Tamm's book "Robert Fripp, from King Crimson
to Guitar Craft" describes working with him pretty well,
and reveals some pretty intimidating aspects of his
teaching style. As you would expect, though, I'm looking
forward to the experience.


NOTE: I would respectfully ask those who hate Guitar Craft to please not go on the attack today, as I have refrained from
any Crafty preaching or comment for months and only post this
because it seems relevant to the discussion. I can take it if you need to unload, but I'd rather avoid the experience, as I've valued
friendly participation here. Thanks.
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Postby drdennis on Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:59 pm

Also, Monokchrome's avatar is the best
thing I've seen in a week.
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Postby vrooom on Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:08 pm

drdennis wrote:NOTE: I would respectfully ask those who hate Guitar Craft to please not go on the attack today, as I have refrained from any Crafty preaching or comment for months and only post this because it seems relevant to the discussion. I can take it if you need to unload, but I'd rather avoid the experience, as I've valued friendly participation here. Thanks.


That's not fair...how the heck am I supposed to get my kicks? You Crafties are NO fun whatsoever... :P

I've always said that the right hand is pretty important when it comes to the guitar. A lot of people concentrate on the left. Luckily (or not), I started on the bass and so I got a relatively good sense of rhythm in my right hand (or did I develop that from all that self-pleasure while surfing for animal porn on the WWW?).

Anyway, have fun Mr Dennis and I dare you to retune all the Crafties guitars back to standard tuning as a joke... :D


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