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Level 5 - Limted Edition Tour EP (2001)

Postby vrooom on Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:13 pm


Your thoughts about this album to be posted here - so feel free to talk about your first listen, what you like about this album, what you don't like, etc.

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Postby Indyrod on Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:42 pm

This is a very very special album to me for several reasons. First of all, I bought it at the Level Five concert here in November of 2001. After hearing for the first time the incredible new songs "Level Five", "Dangerous Curves", and "Virtuous Circle" live, I couldn't wait to listen to them again with this album. With the additional tracks "ConstruKction of Light" and "The Deception of the Thrush", this album provided me with an instant replay of the incredible concert I had just witnessed. I have number 1476 of the Limited Edition Tour CD, and it is one of my most prized Crimson possessions.
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Postby The Crimson Avenger on Sun Apr 18, 2004 7:15 pm

What to make of this disc? It's kind of a half-way point between TCOL and TPTB, and a concert memento of a slightly stagnant tour (by KC any other standard, the 2001 shows killed)

At the time it came out, it was valuable to have the previously unrecorded material, especially 'Virtuous Circle' available to the public. Now, it doesn't really sit comfortably in the KC ouvre.

But whatever, five great songs, five great performances, a balls to the wall concert recording, I think I'm going to go toss it in the CD player.
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Postby ChewChewGumChew on Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:46 pm

Very cool tour souvinier (sp?). This is what the 2003 Tour Box should have been. Great unreleased tunes. Great Thrush. Great TCOL. All Killer No Filler.
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Postby RYG on Mon Apr 19, 2004 3:05 pm

This release is definitely my favorite of all the non-KCCC releases over the last five years or so. Although it only contains six songs (including the tremendous -- to me -- improv that is at the end of track 5 after about 20 secs of silence) they are all the best versions of those songs to be found anywhere. To me, this disk always had the best sound, with TBTB a close second, of any album of theirs.

If KC were to put out a release like this with every tour, we'd be a lucky bunch. I also like the "limited edition" quality of this recording (even though some copies were produced AFTER the tour) because it's just a neat feature to have a numbered edition of it.
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Postby vrooom on Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:53 pm

I actually listened to this release last night and it brought back memories already! :D

First off, I didn't actually like the Level 5 EP that much when I first got it. I felt that Level 5 itself was derivative and quite flat - though I did absolutely love Dangerous Curves and still believe that this should still be used as a live opener.

I also really hated the Virtuous Circle piece. I thought it was meandering and dull. Where was it going? It didn't seem to know. As a piece of Crimson, it was wandering in the right direction before some awful scat guitar playing broke the spell. Yuck! Funnily enough, my most favourite piece of recent Crim is TPTB II, which is of course the refined version of Virtuous Circle. Amazing how opinions and music can change over time.

When the Japanese release of this CD came out, I bought a copy believing it to have extra tracks (because there was a rumour somewhere - possibly from RF or DGM that there was). Imagine my disappointment when it was just the same as my plain old USA version. Boo hoo! :D

Level 5 and the KCCC 19 release sit well together on the shelf.

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Postby Dog_none on Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:46 am

This is a great souvenir, but to me it was soon overshadowed by Club 19, Shogonai, and finally TPTB. They kept getting better and better as far as I am concerned.

However, I do have fond memories of listening to this right after the show. I'm with Darren in that "Dangerous Curves" was the only true standout track for me. I don't know if I like it better as an opener, or as a lead in to "Lark's IV", but this piece gets my heart going every time I hear it.

My first impression of "Level 5" (the song) was similar. I found it to be very powerful, but not really inspired. Since then, I've grown to love the piece. It makes a perfect bookend, along with "Larks IV" to any Crim show.
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Postby The Doc on Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:39 pm

Is it just me or does Crimsonic seem a little familiar for an abcdarian :wink:
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Postby vrooom on Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:09 pm

Without even checking the IP Address, I would say that Crimsonic is MalcX. Before he registers another address, I will publicly announce the current situation RE: the multiple logins of MX.

1) I emailed and PM'd MX about this, but I don't think he's taking much notice

2) I added the little TM symbol to his old login so he would still have his post rating and deleted his most current membername

3) If MX wants to login as MX(with a little TM) then he can, as long as he uses his ORIGINAL password

4) I fancy a lie down now :shock:

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