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What is worst king crimson album?

In The Court Of The Crimson King
1
1%
In The Wake of Poseidon
2
3%
Lizard
15
23%
Islands
13
20%
Larks' Tongues In Aspic
0
No votes
Starless And Bible Black
0
No votes
Red
1
1%
Discipline
0
No votes
Beat
12
18%
Three Of A Perfect Pair
15
23%
Thrak
3
4%
The Construcktion Of Light
3
4%
 
Total votes : 65

Re: My Worst King Crimson Album - Islands

Postby ChewChewGumChew on Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:04 am

vrooom wrote:
ChewChewGumChew wrote:(It's still better than Lizard :lol: )


No way. Lizard wins through purely on its "what the fuck?" value.


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Re: My Worst King Crimson Album - Islands

Postby MarkSullivan on Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:15 am

ChewChewGumChew wrote:
vrooom wrote:
ChewChewGumChew wrote:(It's still better than Lizard :lol: )


No way. Lizard wins through purely on its "what the fuck?" value.


Darren

You win again, I surely can't argue with that.


That's one way to look at it. I know when Lizard came out it was confusing, but still recongnizably a King Crimson album. It even had some of the classic LP structure, with "Lady..." filling the ballad slot. Islands had long stretches that just didn't sound like the same band at all! "Sailor's Tale" was the only real barn-burner, especially on first listen. I've declined to vote in this poll, and now that it's been resurrected, I find I still can't do it. Beat would form a three-way tie for me, but I like them all well enough that I just can't pick one as worst.
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Postby ChewChewGumChew on Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:20 am

Look at it as "Least Played" and it's as easier poll.
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Re: My Worst King Crimson Album - Islands

Postby Dog_none on Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:06 am

vrooom wrote:
ChewChewGumChew wrote:(It's still better than Lizard :lol: )


No way. Lizard wins through purely on its "what the fuck?" value.


Darren


Lizard is a masterpiece of weirdness. For me, it ranks with Crimson's best.
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Re: My Worst King Crimson Album - Islands

Postby Gilesfan on Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:15 am

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The main reason is because it always sounds too airy fairy for my liking. Most of the arrangements are poor and the production lacks any guts whatsoever.


The arrangements are okay, but the production is weak. The title track is so sad, melancholic and depressing that I can hardly handle it!


The Crimson Fox wrote:Formentera Lady - This track contains Boz Burrells most awful vocal with added soprano from Paulina Lucas.


Jakko Jakszyk sings it much better. Especially live on the Live in Japan DVD! In fact, 21st Century Schizoid Band did this song better than King Crimson ever could!


The Crimson Fox wrote:Song of the Gulls - an awful sounding orchestral arrangement adapted from a piece from the Giles, Giles & Fripp sessions.:.



Is this what was formerly "Drop In"? If so, I agree. "Drop In" from 1967 with Giles, Giles and Fripp and with King Crimson line in 1969 could never be outdone, and trying to do so was a mistake and futile.


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Boz sounds like Gary Glitter on Ladies Of The Road on some parts of the track... which aint a good thing especially nowadays :shock:.


He sounds to me more like an imitation of Paul McCartney. Guess that is a good thing nowadays. :lol:


The Crimson Fox wrote:
The 1971 early 1972 era crimson is my least favourite of all the incarnations..
Me too. I still say that Fripp was clutching at straws at this time, desperate to keep the band together.

The Crimson Fox wrote:I still haven’t brought myself to buy Ladies of the road – The Collectors Club special edition since it came out.. and probably never will.


I hear ya! I still have not listened enough to Earthbound or KCCC#2: Live in Jacksonville (lost in Katrina flood as part of the Japanese box set of KCCC: 1: Live at the Marquee, KCCC#3: Live in Bremen 1972. In other words, I still have tro get to grips with those before any more. But the versions of "21st Century Schizoid Man" might make it worth it.



vrooom wrote:While the live band is a revelation, it's an out-and-out rock and roll band and not necessarily a suitable vessel for the King, if you please.


Exactly!

It sounds like the other guys wanted to "jam" more and Fripp wanted to "explore" and "improvise", which is exactly what the absolutley brilliant 1972-74 line-up did.

I think Boz would probably agree to this, judging by his recent interview here.
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Re: My Worst King Crimson Album - Islands

Postby Indyrod on Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:42 pm

Dog_none wrote:Lizard is a masterpiece of weirdness. For me, it ranks with Crimson's best.


I agree, and "Lizard" to me is KC's All-Star band with guests. I like the concept, and I truly enjoy the music. One of a kind and a real treasure in the KC discography. TOAPP just flat out stinks, along with Beat.
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Re: My Worst King Crimson Album - Islands

Postby The Crimson Avenger on Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:46 pm

Indyrod wrote:
Dog_none wrote:Lizard is a masterpiece of weirdness. For me, it ranks with Crimson's best.


I agree, and "Lizard" to me is KC's All-Star band with guests. I like the concept, and I truly enjoy the music. One of a kind and a real treasure in the KC discography. TOAPP just flat out stinks, along with Beat.


...and you call yourself a King Crimson fan... :roll:
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Re: My Worst King Crimson Album - Islands

Postby vrooom on Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:54 pm

The Crimson Avenger wrote:...and you call yourself a King Crimson fan... :roll:


Hmmm...

I am beginning to believe that none of us here are actually King Crimson fans. Maybe we should rebrand the site as something else?


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Postby Indyrod on Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:54 pm

Sorry, but I just don't like Ade's pop songs, and that's basically what TOAPP and Beat are for the most part. IMO For being followups to "Discipline", the bar was raised very high, and those two albums brought it down for me. To be a true Crimhead, you have to love "Lizard". Just thought I would throw that in... :P
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Postby Riverman on Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:32 pm

Indyrod wrote:Sorry, but I just don't like Ade's pop songs, and that's basically what TOAPP and Beat are for the most part.

Beat - 3 Belew pop tunes; 1 interlocking-guitar piece; 1 groove-based instrumental; 2 Crim-chaos freakout tunes; 1 improv.
3/8 = 37.5%

3PP - 3 Belew pop tunes; 1 interlocking-guitar piece; 1 Frippertronic piece; 1 improv; 1 abstract rambling chaotic piece; 1 groove-based instrumental; 1 composed instrumental.
3/9 = 33.3%

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